Comments on: Austin Condos – First signs of pullback from developers http://crosslandteam.com/blog/2007/08/24/austin-condos-first-signs-of-pullback-from-developers/ Austin Real Estate Blog Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:40:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: SolMan http://crosslandteam.com/blog/2007/08/24/austin-condos-first-signs-of-pullback-from-developers/#comment-854 SolMan Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:45:40 +0000 http://ben.crosslandteam.com/blog/2007/08/24/austin-condos-first-signs-of-pullback-from-developers/#comment-854 Tom - Here's a web page that combines all the listings for downtown condos, including above the Hilton: http://www.austintowers.net/at/downtown_condo_listings.html You might also want to check listings in the following zip codes: 78704, 78705, 78703, 78722, 78702. Those are your classic Central Austin neighborhoods. '02 is rough in patches, so walk around the neighborhood before buying. Tom – Here’s a web page that combines all the listings for downtown condos, including above the Hilton:

http://www.austintowers.net/at/downtown_condo_listings.html

You might also want to check listings in the following zip codes: 78704, 78705, 78703, 78722, 78702. Those are your classic Central Austin neighborhoods. ’02 is rough in patches, so walk around the neighborhood before buying.

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]]> By: Leon Fu http://crosslandteam.com/blog/2007/08/24/austin-condos-first-signs-of-pullback-from-developers/#comment-853 Leon Fu Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:53:51 +0000 http://ben.crosslandteam.com/blog/2007/08/24/austin-condos-first-signs-of-pullback-from-developers/#comment-853 Hey Steve, It's not just the lawn care and weekly location. It's having ammenities on site. It's the location where you don't need to drive your car everyday (if you work and play downtown). Even if you don't work downtown, your commute is easier as you are going against traffic most of the time. It's being close to where most of the activities and cultural and social events in Austin are without have to worry about where to park your car. It's having a great view from one of the upper floors. Go take a look at the views from the Hilton. They are amazing. There's also more security if you leave for an extended vacation or trip as the place is monitored 24/7 by human beings (not just a wired alarm system). It's being close to Town Lake. It's not for everyone, but I certainly enjoy it. The big disadvantage is having to live in a much smaller space. So it's probably not good for families or people that own a lot of things, need space, and a yard. But I don't have many things anyway. I own a place at the Milago condos and a house in Avery Ranch as well. I've lived in both. Although the house is much more comfortable as more than 2 times the size for a little less money. But I save a lot of time living downtown. Leon Hey Steve,

It’s not just the lawn care and weekly location. It’s having ammenities on site. It’s the location where you don’t need to drive your car everyday (if you work and play downtown). Even if you don’t work downtown, your commute is easier as you are going against traffic most of the time.

It’s being close to where most of the activities and cultural and social events in Austin are without have to worry about where to park your car. It’s having a great view from one of the upper floors. Go take a look at the views from the Hilton. They are amazing. There’s also more security if you leave for an extended vacation or trip as the place is monitored 24/7 by human beings (not just a wired alarm system). It’s being close to Town Lake.

It’s not for everyone, but I certainly enjoy it. The big disadvantage is having to live in a much smaller space. So it’s probably not good for families or people that own a lot of things, need space, and a yard. But I don’t have many things anyway. I own a place at the Milago condos and a house in Avery Ranch as well. I’ve lived in both. Although the house is much more comfortable as more than 2 times the size for a little less money. But I save a lot of time living downtown.

Leon

]]> By: Steve Crossland http://crosslandteam.com/blog/2007/08/24/austin-condos-first-signs-of-pullback-from-developers/#comment-851 Steve Crossland Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:50:02 +0000 http://ben.crosslandteam.com/blog/2007/08/24/austin-condos-first-signs-of-pullback-from-developers/#comment-851 Solman, I agree. I can't even believe people are willing to spend $1M on a place to eat, sleep, shower and hang out. One can argue the "convenience" of condo living, but in most cases the monthly condo fees exceed what it would cost to have full service lawn care as well as weekly maid service in a residential home. Steve Solman,

I agree. I can’t even believe people are willing to spend $1M on a place to eat, sleep, shower and hang out. One can argue the “convenience” of condo living, but in most cases the monthly condo fees exceed what it would cost to have full service lawn care as well as weekly maid service in a residential home.
Steve

]]> By: SolMan http://crosslandteam.com/blog/2007/08/24/austin-condos-first-signs-of-pullback-from-developers/#comment-850 SolMan Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:42:04 +0000 http://ben.crosslandteam.com/blog/2007/08/24/austin-condos-first-signs-of-pullback-from-developers/#comment-850 Next project to be cancelled, delayed or completely redesigned: http://1155bartonsprings.com/ I don't see how they plan to sell condos starting at $1 mill in South Austin, in the current credit market. Hell, they're still trying to sell those condos on the top of the Hilton and how long has that been finished? Note that like the Magnolia, this is also right next to the train tracks. In my opinion, there would be a larger market for condo buyers if reasonably sized (1600 sq ft or so) three bedroom condos were being built. I think the Circle C in the sky approach is played out. Next project to be cancelled, delayed or completely redesigned:

http://1155bartonsprings.com/

I don’t see how they plan to sell condos starting at $1 mill in South Austin, in the current credit market. Hell, they’re still trying to sell those condos on the top of the Hilton and how long has that been finished? Note that like the Magnolia, this is also right next to the train tracks.

In my opinion, there would be a larger market for condo buyers if reasonably sized (1600 sq ft or so) three bedroom condos were being built. I think the Circle C in the sky approach is played out.

]]> By: Steve Crossland http://crosslandteam.com/blog/2007/08/24/austin-condos-first-signs-of-pullback-from-developers/#comment-849 Steve Crossland Sun, 26 Aug 2007 15:01:32 +0000 http://ben.crosslandteam.com/blog/2007/08/24/austin-condos-first-signs-of-pullback-from-developers/#comment-849 Good points. I was in fact curious about why a South Austin project would be having trouble. It would make sense that it could be reasons unrelated to the demand. Steve Good points. I was in fact curious about why a South Austin project would be having trouble. It would make sense that it could be reasons unrelated to the demand.

Steve

]]> By: ray http://crosslandteam.com/blog/2007/08/24/austin-condos-first-signs-of-pullback-from-developers/#comment-848 ray Sat, 25 Aug 2007 04:28:54 +0000 http://ben.crosslandteam.com/blog/2007/08/24/austin-condos-first-signs-of-pullback-from-developers/#comment-848 I am pretty sure that the Magnolia lot is the one with a cellphone tower that appears to be located right on it, and it is also right next to the freight line running next to Lamar. When driving past I often wondered who would want to have a cell tower immediately outside their window and live next to a freight line?, and also about possible health concerns from radiation etc. So, I am thinking that the problems are just as likely connected with some design and marketing issues specific to a sub-standard site. After all, what does the author of the article really know as fact rather than just assume in a day dreamy kind of way? I am pretty sure that the Magnolia lot is the one with a cellphone tower that appears to be located right on it, and it is also right next to the freight line running next to Lamar. When driving past I often wondered who would want to have a cell tower immediately outside their window and live next to a freight line?, and also about possible health concerns from radiation etc. So, I am thinking that the problems are just as likely connected with some design and marketing issues specific to a sub-standard site. After all, what does the author of the article really know as fact rather than just assume in a day dreamy kind of way?

]]> By: dave http://crosslandteam.com/blog/2007/08/24/austin-condos-first-signs-of-pullback-from-developers/#comment-852 dave Fri, 24 Aug 2007 17:51:24 +0000 http://ben.crosslandteam.com/blog/2007/08/24/austin-condos-first-signs-of-pullback-from-developers/#comment-852 Here's the problem. Developers operate in pendulum-like swings. Like animals eating more than than they need(that includes us humans), the developers keep the pipelines humming as fast as possible with loans, upcoming-projects, land aquisition, and pre-selling units. The more buyers, projects, and loans they line up, the more they are butressed against prices going up and business going down. As always, they reach a point where the pendulum cannot maintain its momentum, and completely overhangs its mark. Loans dry up, along with buyers, and they are stuck with product. They proceed to shut down the pipeline, re-organize, and prepare to overshoot another market in the future. And so on, and so on, and so on........ Here’s the problem. Developers operate in pendulum-like swings. Like animals eating more than than they need(that
includes us humans), the developers keep the pipelines humming as fast as possible with loans, upcoming-projects,
land aquisition, and pre-selling units. The more buyers, projects, and loans they line up, the more they are butressed
against prices going up and business going down. As always, they reach a point where the pendulum cannot maintain
its momentum, and completely overhangs its mark. Loans dry up, along with buyers, and they are stuck with product.
They proceed to shut down the pipeline, re-organize, and prepare to overshoot another market in the future. And so on,
and so on, and so on……..

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