Comments on: Why I Never Do Move-out Walk-throughs with Departing Tenants http://crosslandteam.com/blog/2009/05/27/why-i-never-do-move-out-walk-throughs-with-departing-tenants/ Austin Real Estate Blog Tue, 07 Sep 2010 05:12:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Steve Crossland http://crosslandteam.com/blog/2009/05/27/why-i-never-do-move-out-walk-throughs-with-departing-tenants/comment-page-1/#comment-98180 Steve Crossland Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:31:46 +0000 http://crosslandteam.com/?p=1021#comment-98180 Hi Mary, > My property is in Minnesota. Does anyone know if I have too (attend walk-through)? Check your state/local laws/ordinances. You could probably just call a NARPM property manager and ask. www.narpm.org. Thanks for your comment. Steve Hi Mary,

> My property is in Minnesota. Does anyone know if I have too (attend walk-through)?

Check your state/local laws/ordinances. You could probably just call a NARPM property manager and ask. http://www.narpm.org.

Thanks for your comment.

Steve

]]> By: Mary http://crosslandteam.com/blog/2009/05/27/why-i-never-do-move-out-walk-throughs-with-departing-tenants/comment-page-1/#comment-97741 Mary Fri, 02 Oct 2009 00:09:43 +0000 http://crosslandteam.com/?p=1021#comment-97741 I so understand your thought process. I've been doing final walk throughs and it becomes an argument. Tenants are ticked off when I point out things that are not done and the argument begins. Stress that I do not need... I never used to do them and then started for some reason. Perhaps I read that I had too. My property is in Minnesota. Does anyone know if I have too? I'm sick of it and I don't care to do final walk throughs anymore. My lease is very clear about my expectations and I am very clear when tenants move in. I so understand your thought process. I’ve been doing final walk throughs and it becomes an argument. Tenants are ticked off when I point out things that are not done and the argument begins. Stress that I do not need…
I never used to do them and then started for some reason. Perhaps I read that I had too. My property is in Minnesota. Does anyone know if I have too? I’m sick of it and I don’t care to do final walk throughs anymore. My lease is very clear about my expectations and I am very clear when tenants move in.

]]> By: Steve Crossland http://crosslandteam.com/blog/2009/05/27/why-i-never-do-move-out-walk-throughs-with-departing-tenants/comment-page-1/#comment-90288 Steve Crossland Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:30:45 +0000 http://crosslandteam.com/?p=1021#comment-90288 Hi Gina, Thanks for your comments. Check with your carpet person about the issue of returning stains. This is a common, known problem. You are free to run your landlord business as you see fit, and I won't argue with you. I can promise that your method, if applied to 2,000+ move-outs, would cause major headaches and you'd soon change your mind. Dealing with one property and a move-out every 2 or 3 years won't expose you fully to the validity of the rationale, until you encounter that one pita tenant who changes your views (and your policies) forever. Good luck on your walk-throughs! Steve Hi Gina,

Thanks for your comments. Check with your carpet person about the issue of returning stains. This is a common, known problem.

You are free to run your landlord business as you see fit, and I won’t argue with you. I can promise that your method, if applied to 2,000+ move-outs, would cause major headaches and you’d soon change your mind. Dealing with one property and a move-out every 2 or 3 years won’t expose you fully to the validity of the rationale, until you encounter that one pita tenant who changes your views (and your policies) forever.

Good luck on your walk-throughs!

Steve

]]> By: Gina Johnson http://crosslandteam.com/blog/2009/05/27/why-i-never-do-move-out-walk-throughs-with-departing-tenants/comment-page-1/#comment-90194 Gina Johnson Thu, 23 Jul 2009 03:15:47 +0000 http://crosslandteam.com/?p=1021#comment-90194 Wow. If a carpet stain is scrubbed invisible one day only to reappear after the tenant has moved out, it could safely be assumed that "you"or your guest made the stains, not the tenant. I am a landlord and as such have to say that your "faulty logic" gives us all a bad rap. I will always give the tenant an opportunity to accompany me on my final walk-thru. What's there to hide from the tenant? Be thorough and you won't need to do anything on the sly. Wow. If a carpet stain is scrubbed invisible one day only to reappear after the tenant has moved out, it could safely be assumed that “you”or your guest made the stains, not the tenant.

I am a landlord and as such have to say that your “faulty logic” gives us all a bad rap. I will always give the tenant an opportunity to accompany me on my final walk-thru. What’s there to hide from the tenant? Be thorough and you won’t need to do anything on the sly.

]]> By: Steve Crossland http://crosslandteam.com/blog/2009/05/27/why-i-never-do-move-out-walk-throughs-with-departing-tenants/comment-page-1/#comment-87047 Steve Crossland Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:52:15 +0000 http://crosslandteam.com/?p=1021#comment-87047 > That is, it’s a final chance to bring it up to the landlord’s standards. Hi Roxanne, unfortunately I can say without reservation that such an accommodation would result in nothing but trouble for a landlord. It's human nature to debate and argue. A 2nd chance would turn into a third, and this would be a no-win for the landlord. Most of the failed move-outs I see are not even close calls either. They are home that have obviously received little to no effort. On the sales side we have the same problem, though sellers usually do a pretty good job of leaving a clean home for the new owner to move into. Nevertheless, we write into all sales contracts for buyers that "seller to have home and carpets professionally cleaned prior to closing". Steve > That is, it’s a final chance to bring it up to the landlord’s standards.

Hi Roxanne, unfortunately I can say without reservation that such an accommodation would result in nothing but trouble for a landlord. It’s human nature to debate and argue. A 2nd chance would turn into a third, and this would be a no-win for the landlord.

Most of the failed move-outs I see are not even close calls either. They are home that have obviously received little to no effort.

On the sales side we have the same problem, though sellers usually do a pretty good job of leaving a clean home for the new owner to move into. Nevertheless, we write into all sales contracts for buyers that “seller to have home and carpets professionally cleaned prior to closing”.

Steve

]]> By: Roxanne http://crosslandteam.com/blog/2009/05/27/why-i-never-do-move-out-walk-throughs-with-departing-tenants/comment-page-1/#comment-86688 Roxanne Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:15:23 +0000 http://crosslandteam.com/?p=1021#comment-86688 Though I agree that a walk-through should never be about confirming the return of a deposit, I have to disagree that they are not important enough to push through. Instate a policy about discussing the deposit during the walk-though if you must. The walk through should not be a time for the tenant to get the landlord's approval. It should be a time to 1) discuss any problems that have not yet been addressed or have been discovered during cleaning and 2) for the landlord to point out to the tenant anything that the latter might have missed but would drain the deposit. That is, it's a final chance to bring it up to the landlord's standards. What is very obvious to you as a landlord, a tenant might be completely oblivious to. In my state, CA, (and my previous state in New England), a final walk-through is a legal requirement. Though I agree that a walk-through should never be about confirming the return of a deposit, I have to disagree that they are not important enough to push through. Instate a policy about discussing the deposit during the walk-though if you must.

The walk through should not be a time for the tenant to get the landlord’s approval. It should be a time to 1) discuss any problems that have not yet been addressed or have been discovered during cleaning and 2) for the landlord to point out to the tenant anything that the latter might have missed but would drain the deposit. That is, it’s a final chance to bring it up to the landlord’s standards. What is very obvious to you as a landlord, a tenant might be completely oblivious to.

In my state, CA, (and my previous state in New England), a final walk-through is a legal requirement.

]]> By: lenny http://crosslandteam.com/blog/2009/05/27/why-i-never-do-move-out-walk-throughs-with-departing-tenants/comment-page-1/#comment-83301 lenny Thu, 04 Jun 2009 03:57:01 +0000 http://crosslandteam.com/?p=1021#comment-83301 i just ran this articel though words spellig check... it turnd up 5 mis-speled words... soon as i have the time.. i'll run the rest of steves blogs... i shudder at wehat might come up... i just ran this articel though words spellig check… it turnd up 5 mis-speled words…

soon as i have the time.. i’ll run the rest of steves blogs… i shudder at wehat might come up…

]]> By: muzzie k http://crosslandteam.com/blog/2009/05/27/why-i-never-do-move-out-walk-throughs-with-departing-tenants/comment-page-1/#comment-83253 muzzie k Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:19:17 +0000 http://crosslandteam.com/?p=1021#comment-83253 You've got a typo in 3rd para 1st line on 'why I never do a move out walkthough. 'flaes' s/b FLAWS You’ve got a typo in 3rd para 1st line on ‘why I never do a move out walkthough.

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